Kommetdieding (SAF)

Elusive Fort - Adorable (Captain Al) bay, 2017 - height 16.1hh

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Race Record

6 wins, 1200-2200m, at 2 to 5

Rated MR 129

At 2 WON his only start (1200m)

At 3 WON Gr1 Durban July (2200m)

        WON Gr3 Politician S. (1800m)

        3rd      Gr1 Daily News 2000 (2000m)

        3rd      Gr2 SA Guineas (1600m)

At 4 WON Gr1 Cape Met (2000m)

        2nd      Gr1 Queen’s Plate (1600m)

        2nd      Gr1 Champion’s Cup (1800m)

        3rd      Gr1 Horse Chestnut S. (1600m)

At 5  3rd      Gr2 Green Point S. (1600m)

        2nd      Gr1 Cape Met (2000m)

Sire Line

ELUSIVE FORT – 7 wins, 1300-2450m, incl Gr1 Daily News 2200, Gr1 SA Derby, Gr1 Horse Chestnut S.; Equus Champion Male Stayer in 2006; sire of Gr1 winners of both sexes; sire of sires.

Notable progeny incl. Kommetdieding (17c – Captain Al, Russian Fox); Siren’s Call (11f - West Man, Wolf Power); Out Of Your League (16c – Windrush, Del Sarto); Lauderdale (12f – Western Winter, Hawaii); Catch Twentytwo (17c – Argonaut, Jet Master); Big Burn (18f – Argonaut, Jet Master); Ernie (12c – Captain Al, Centenary); Chitengo (15f – Montjeu, Ezzoud); Freedom Charter (14f – Captain Al, Centenary); Fort Ember (12f – Kahal, All Fired Up); Elusivenchantment (12f – Qui Danzig, Quick Turnover); Elusive Heart (14f – Indigo Magic, Al Mufti); Sprinkles (18f – Tiger Ridge, Western Winter); Secret Potion (14f – Parade Leader, Devilish Ninja); Safe Harbour (13f – Rakeen, Peacetime); London Roads (18c – Strike Smartly); Elevated (13c – Spaceship, Dancing Champ); Shavout (17c – Al Mufti, Pompeii Court); Crowded House (15f – Toreador, Model Man); Naval Guard (17c – Toreador, Scuffleburg); Woodland’s Forest (13c – Belong To Me, Unbridled); Paddington (13c – Silvano, Badger Land); Elusive Trader (15c – Var, Centenary); Western Fort (16c – Western Winter, Fort Wood); Red Ten (17c – Windrush, Father Rooney); Arapaho (16c – Captain Al, Lambent Light); etc.

Sadler’s Wells line sires in South Africa:  Elusive Fort (Fort Wood), Kommetdieding (Elusive Fort); Act Of War, Futura, Legislate (Dynasty); Flying The Flag, Global View, The United States (Galileo); Potala Palace (Singspiel)

Pedigree

Elusive Fort
2002
Fort Wood
1990
Sadler's WellsNorthern Dancer - Nearctic
Fairy Bridge - Bold Reason
Fall AspenPretense - Endeavour II
Change Water - Swaps
Ever Seeking
1993
Secret ProspectorMr Prospector - Raise A Native
Secret Asset - Graustark
EpoqueOak Dancer - Green Dancer
Elysee - El Gran Capitan
Adorable
2006
Captain Al
1996
Al MuftiRoberto - Hail To Reason
Lassie Dear - Buckpasser
Off To WarComplete Warrior - Dewan
Infanta - Jamaico
Dacha
1992
Russian FoxNijinsky - Northern Dancer
Flying Fur - Sky High
Riding LightTop Ville - High Top
Flash On - Sea Hawk II

Pedigree

Kommetdieding hails from a strong sire-producing female line, tracing to Queen Of Light. This mare is by Borealis out of Picture Play, making her very close kin to sires Alycidon and Acropolis. The notable lines here are grandsire Donatello and grandam Aurora.

The bottom female line extends further to the mare Absurdity, full sister to Doxa. The latter is grandam of Helene de Troie, dam of famous mare La Troienne. The pedigree make-up of Helene de Troie makes her close kin to Amuse, grandam of Queen Of Light, which in turn leads to a close kinship between La Troienne and Queen Of Light. This gives an expectation that descendants of La Troienne and of Queen Of Light might combine well.

Four of Queen Of Light’s daughters established sire-producing families: Chandelier, Crystal Palace, Picture Light and Lovely Light. Of these, Chandelier was the most prolific one. We follow the legacy of her daughter Crystal Light. Her two highest achieving descendants are Kommetdieding and Captain America., both multiple Gr1 winners.

Kommetdieding is by Elusive Fort (Fort Wood) out of a mare by Captain Al, while Captain America is by Captain Al out of a daughter of Fort Wood.

Captain Al’s influence appears to follow one of two routes: either his sire Al Mufti, or his bottom female line. Al Mufti is a son of influential mare Lassie Dear. She is by Buckpasser, possibly La Troienne’s most influential descendant. Captain Al carries a double of Buckpasser’s dam Busanda, and thus a double of La Troienne. This provides the link to Queen Of Light.

Kommetdieding’s sire Elusive Fort brings more of the same. His dam Ever Seeking is by Secret Prospector. The latter’s grandam Numbered Account is by Buckpasser out of Intriguing, herself a descendant of La Troienne, and so giving a double La T. Interestingly, Numbered Account is close kin to Lassie Dear.

Secret Prospector is kinbred through the bottom female line of his sire Mr Prospector (Miss Dogwood) to La Troienne and daughter Baby League. Miss Dogwood is also close kin to Businesslike, dam of Busanda. Secret Prospector, in other words, looks to be a notable influence.

Secret Prospector’s pedigree elements make him close kin to several lines which appear in Elusive Fort’s best offspring. They include Gone West (Western Winter/Argonaut, West Man), Seeking The Gold (Windrush), Parade Leader.

Fort Wood might be of interest, as his dam Fall Aspen is close kin to Elusive Fort’s bottom line ancestor Empress.

Empress is also close kin to La Troienne and to Flower Bowl (dam of His Majesty, and Graustark – in Secret Prospector)

 

Suitable Lines

  • mares with multiples of La Troienne, which are widespread, and include Secret Prospector, Lassie Dear (Al Mufti, Captain Al, Duke Of Marmalade, Tiger Ridge, Jay Peg, etc), Northern Guest (Capetown Noir, Pomodoro), National Assembly (National Emblem, Rafeef, Vercingetorix), Complete Warrior, etc., etc.;
  • mares with Mr Prospector, which are widespread, notably including Secret Prospector, etc., etc., (and generally hard to avoid);
  • mares with kin-links to Secret Prospector, notably Gone West (Western Winter (Argonaut, What A Winter, Capetown Noir), West Man, Visionaire), Parade Leader, Seeking The Gold (Windrush, Lecture, Dubawi (Erupt, Willow Magic)), Forty Niner (Trippi, Distorted Humor (Flower Alley, Pathfork), Rich Man’s Gold (Kildonan));
  • mares with sires from Queen Of Light’s female line, including Crystal de Roche, Welsh Pageant (Canford Cliffs, Saumarez, Second Empire, Kildonan), etc;
  • mares with close kin-links to Queen Of Light, notably Alycidon (What A Winter (!), etc.), Acropolis (Kahal, Horse Chestnut, etc.); the dam of Queen Of Light is half sister to South African sire Royal Pardon (Goldmark, Vercingetorix
  • mares with Fort Wood (Dynasty, Horse Chestnut, Capetown Noir, William Longsword, etc).

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